Quote, Tim Keller ("Counterfeit Gods"):
“Romantic love is an object of enormous power for the human heart and imagination, and therefore can excessively dominate our lives. Even people who completely avoid romantic love out of bitterness or fear are actually being controlled by its power.”
Ecclesiastes 4:9-12
9 Two are better than one, because they have a good reward for their toil. 10 For if they fall, one will lift up his fellow. But woe to him who is alone when he falls and has not another to lift him up! 11 Again, if two lie together, they keep warm, but how can one keep warm alone? 12 And though a man might prevail against one who is alone, two will withstand him—a threefold cord is not quickly broken.
Exodus 20:3-6
I'll also encourage you to read Genesis 29 and think about Jacob specifically and his approach to love. Was love a form of slavery to him? Was Rachel Jacob's "savior"? Was romance and marriage a counterfeit god?
Questions
- Do you feel controlled by romantic love or the idea of romance?
- Why do we look to romance and sex and marriage to give us meaning?
- Power?
- Control and Security?
- Approval?
- Pleasure and Comfort?
- Of the following three responses, which one most fits you when you realize romance is an idol in your life?:
- (1) Blame the things that are disappointing you and try to move on to better ones (continued idolatry and spiritual addiction)
- (2) Blame yourself and beat yourself up – self-loathing and shame
- (3) Blame the world – (i.e. “curses on the entire opposite sex”) – hard, cynical, & empty
- How do we guard ourselves from putting our deepest hopes and longings in the person we marry?
- How do we foster healthy desires for romance & love?
- Is God a romantic?
Update 3/5/10, from Discussion
Why do we look to romance to give us meaning?
- The world pushes it
- Everyone seems to say relationships are great
- It's the unknown that's enticing
- Dating and romance get rewarded - it feels good
- Tangible, instant gratification
- Easy to get tied up in emotions
- Nice to have needs met in one specific 'irreplaceable' person
- We know it's a different level of acceptance than with friends
- Marriage is meant to be something!
- Immediate approval of "ideal self" -- with God, he knows all our mess
- Wanting the quick fix
- Lust can certainly be involved
- Trying to force it to happen
- Desire can lead to envy and jealously
- Expecting to be known fully by a human
- Desire for possession is more pleasurable than possession
- Craving the drama (the ups and downs) -- with God, it's constant
- Finding worth in relationships
- Addictive (to romance, see quote below)
- Worship of self, selfish behavior
- With God commitment precedes intimacy, and in the world we do it backwards
- Romance not the the same thing as love
- What we desire typically isn't even REAL
- No one can meet our expectations
- Desire is not inherently wrong
- Lie from world: sex is love .... lie from the church: women don't really desire sex (BOOK: "Real Sex" by Lauren Winner)
- But, desire for idols should be a signal to ask yourself "why?"
- Thought can give birth to worse, so don't just dismiss the initial thought/emotion (even if that desire isn't "wrong")
- Be content --- and remember that contentment does NOT take away desire
- Enjoy and celebrate right desire
- All our desire can be found in God
- Yes, God romances ...
- God romances your ETERNAL you (not simply the physical/emotional you) -- and it is specific
- God loves us with an everlasting love (Jeremiah 31:3) --- and the "you" is both individual and collective, not simply one or the other
- We are drawn to God through other eternal beings --- he romances us through other people
- God is always present
- Let is die -- be honest about faulty desire with God (name them) and let them die
- Die to self --- try to do something outside of self
- Foster greater desire for God
- C.S. Lewis, The Weight of Glory: "Indeed, if we consider the unblushing promises of reward and the staggering nature of the rewards promised in the Gospels, it would seem that Our Lord finds our desires, not too strong, but too weak. We are half-hearted creatures, fooling about with drink and sex and ambition when infinite joy is offered us, like an ignorant child who wants to go on making mud pies in a slum because he cannot imagine what is meant by the offer of a holiday at the sea. We are far too easily pleased."
- Trust God's timeline
- Thanksgiving
- Prayer
- Remember the images in the movies fall way short -- they aren't Jesus
Quote regarding romance addiction:
"Inevitably, romance addiction, like any other addiction, begins to interfere with the addict's life. What once brought relief soon bring spain, demanding more relief, causing more pain…and so on. What was once a technique for control takes control and throw life out of balance. The addict cannot work or play with theta obsession rearing its head…. Everything else in life takes second place to feeing the addictive craving for romantic intoxication.
Ironically, in almost every case the true object of the obsession is not another person, whether real or imagined, but the addict [herself]. The addict is totally focused on her own broken soul, filled with the hurts caused by all those who have abandoned her in the past. Only one thing matters: feel better now. Only one thing is sought: immediate relief from pain.
Little attention or concern is wasted on anyone else. It is almost impossible for romance addicts, in the throes of their obsessive thinking and behavior, to see beyond the shell of their own self-absorption to the pain they are causing others. All they know is that they hurt, and that they must have what they need to salve their wound. If in the process they wound another, that is unfortunate. But it cannot be helped. Getting the romance 'fix' is all that matters."
(Shannon Ethridge, Every Woman's Battle, quoting Addicted to Love)